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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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and accepted boundaries Welcome to our

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nightmare I think you're going to like

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say hey folks good evening and welcome

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to Phantoms and monsters personal

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reports where I narrate and discuss some

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of the Cryptid and unexplained sightings

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and encounter submitted to families and

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for your consideration now if you're in

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the chat

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and have a question please use caps I'll

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try to get to each one of them after our

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and I suspect there's going to be some

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questions tonight because I'm kind of

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it's uh we're talking about 2017

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when the I call the emergence started

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after what we had in 2011.

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what happened was

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in April 2017

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one of the uh largest Cryptid sagas

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events especially for an urban and

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um the wing humanoid was first dubbed

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the Chicago Phantom that's what I first

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but of course the media and the internet

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eventually preferred to use the moniker

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so we were getting all these references

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to the actual Mothman of Point Pleasant

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so uh tonight I'm going to discuss some

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of the early incidents

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that were reported to the original task

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force which you know throughout 2017 how

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the you know the Nexus and how it

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evolved over the year and believe me

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2017 was a bear it was crazy I mean you

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can ask Tobias and and Manuel as well um

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we were getting sightings left and right

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uh so that original task force did

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uh which was the uh the management

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phenomena and you know after the search

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dozen reports up until the time

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investigations they do they have a

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website Vice and they used to have a TV

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show as well and they used to report

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things well one of the reporters went

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going to go ahead and read that report

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of set everything in Emotion

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so I did receive an email from the a

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witness and um

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and I'm going to keep all This

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uh who stated that they wished to talk

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me about a sighting they had on Friday

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bar named the owl

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the location leaning against the wall

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he noticed a large bat-like creature

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flying above the street lights which

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anomaly he noticed that it was actually

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a bat-like humanoid

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description later on

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a heavy like that of a pterosaur

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forthright and didn't embellish during

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vice it did led to the vice article

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that went viral I mean it sparked

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interest in the phenomena right away as

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and um they were putting out a few

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details that just hadn't been just you

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know disclosed yet about these flying

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this being in the Autumn Auburn Gresham

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neighborhood

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now this was sent to Manuel navare

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over UFO Clearinghouse and that by this

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time you know Manuel and I were working

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so uh this police officer who contacted

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he did write it out

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what had happened and sent it to Manuel

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Emmanuel said in demand

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and this is what he States

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I'm going to tell you about something

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that happened to me on the night of June

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29th 2017 in Chicago Illinois

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I'm reporting this on my own volition

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and I'm wanting to stay Anonymous due to

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the fact that I worked for the Chicago

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and I do not want anyone else to know

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that I submitted this report

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I had been with the Chicago Police

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Department for over eight and a half

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the only people who know that I

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submitted this are my wife my son who

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encouraged me to submit this and my

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partner who had also who was also a

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I want you to know that I'm A sound mind

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and health and don't want any publicity

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other than just reporting his incident

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prone to fits of fantasy or hoaxing

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anything that I see uh especially why

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I'm gonna do it

288
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so on the night of 29 2017 approximately

289
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11 15 p.m my partner and I were a

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routine Pro excuse me on routine Patrol

291
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and approaching the intersection of West

292
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81st and South Throop in the Auburn

293
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Gresham neighborhood of Chicago Illinois

294
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now we were flagged down by a group of

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people

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who were pointing up to the top of an

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apartment building that was on the

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corner

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we pulled over and they immediately

300
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started telling us to look up at the

301
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building

302
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me and the people were very frightened

303
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and were very excited about seeing what

304
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they had seen

305
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my partner and I look and see a large

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creature that was approximately six to

307
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six and a half feet tall and very thin

308
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that have been in human it would have

309
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been you would have say there have been

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emaciated

311
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this thing was standing on top of the

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building and had what looked like a pair

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of very large wings that extended out at

314
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least eight to ten foot from tip to tip

315
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no discernible features it just looked

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like a dark black shadow with wings

317
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now my partner and I both thought that

318
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it was someone trying to jump and build

319
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it and maybe wearing a costume of some

320
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type

321
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and we both shined our flashlights to

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get a better look at what we were

323
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dealing with

324
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and this thing took off into the air and

325
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flew away

326
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southerly direction

327
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something sounding like a screen came

328
00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,060
from it and within minutes of about

329
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within a matter of about five seconds

330
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this creature was going into the night

331
00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:33,899
now the people who initially flagged us

332
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down had said that many people in the

333
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neighborhood

334
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had seen this thing for the previous two

335
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nights and this just happened to be the

336
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only time that it was seen in the

337
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stationary place

338
00:14:51,650 --> 00:14:49,380
now we stood there stunned at this thing

339
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as this thing flew away and disappeared

340
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Into the Night

341
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uh we stood there and talked to the

342
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group of people and flagged us down

343
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taking information down in any

344
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information regarding previous settings

345
00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:04,740
from the nights before now we initially

346
00:15:10,129 --> 00:15:07,560
would baffled about filing a report

347
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because we thought it would be we'd be

348
00:15:13,189 --> 00:15:12,240
made fun of for seeing the little green

349
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man

350
00:15:18,650 --> 00:15:16,260
we finally filed a report as we did not

351
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want to violate protocol

352
00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:21,300
nothing was ever said about the report

353
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:23,519
being filed and as of right now it's

354
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been business as usual

355
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now we wanted to file this report

356
00:15:33,050 --> 00:15:31,019
because after I told my son the story he

357
00:15:34,610 --> 00:15:33,060
went online and showed me that this was

358
00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:34,620
not the only sighting of something

359
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similar being seen in the city

360
00:15:41,689 --> 00:15:39,959
I showed my partner the day after the

361
00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:41,699
sighting he said that it didn't want to

362
00:15:45,949 --> 00:15:44,399
be involved and as far as he was a

363
00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:45,959
concern was nothing more than a large

364
00:15:52,009 --> 00:15:49,800
owl or big bird that was misidentified

365
00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,019
my son was the one who encouraged me to

366
00:15:57,170 --> 00:15:54,240
file this and did it and do it

367
00:16:00,110 --> 00:15:57,180
anonymously to protect my identity

368
00:16:02,449 --> 00:16:00,120
now I know what I saw was real

369
00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:02,459
and even though I have no explanation as

370
00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:04,920
to what it truly is

371
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,040
I know that there that what I saw was

372
00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:11,040
Flesh and Blood I am a Christian man who

373
00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:12,959
believes that there are things that come

374
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:15,240
from other planes and stalk people of

375
00:16:18,530 --> 00:16:16,320
this Earth

376
00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:18,540
and that only one's faith is what

377
00:16:22,730 --> 00:16:20,880
protects us from these things

378
00:16:25,310 --> 00:16:22,740
I know that my faith is strong and

379
00:16:27,769 --> 00:16:25,320
therefore I'm protected and I hope that

380
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:27,779
I never see this thing again thank you

381
00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:30,240
very much for your time and have a plus

382
00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:33,600
day so this was pretty remarkable

383
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account

384
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:40,550
but the best thing was that this

385
00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:44,160
supposedly a police report in the system

386
00:16:50,930 --> 00:16:47,759
so what we did

387
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:50,940
I I filed I immediately filed a foia

388
00:16:55,610 --> 00:16:53,600
request to the city of Chicago

389
00:17:00,410 --> 00:16:55,620
and uh

390
00:17:05,090 --> 00:17:00,420
I think Manuel and Tobias did as well

391
00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:08,030
we we did get a response pretty quickly

392
00:17:12,350 --> 00:17:10,439
as a matter of fact but of course the

393
00:17:14,689 --> 00:17:12,360
response is which what we figured was

394
00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:14,699
there was no report cloud

395
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:18,839
so uh you know that was disappointing

396
00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,120
so I was kind of you know we were kind

397
00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:23,280
of bummed up by that hoping that we'd

398
00:17:26,689 --> 00:17:24,540
get something

399
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:26,699
but you know as we went further and

400
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,799
further along with this with these

401
00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:30,799
reports and these sightings

402
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:33,900
uh we found out pretty quickly that the

403
00:17:39,169 --> 00:17:36,000
city and the powers that be weren't

404
00:17:42,830 --> 00:17:39,179
going to be cooperative at all

405
00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:48,230
about a month later in July 26 2017.

406
00:17:52,990 --> 00:17:52,200
I received this next account and this

407
00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:53,000
information

408
00:17:58,190 --> 00:17:55,980
came from a witness

409
00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:58,200
it was in the crowd when the police saw

410
00:18:04,010 --> 00:18:00,240
this thing it was one of the people that

411
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:08,750
so um they they wrote Mr strickler I

412
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:11,100
hesitated to send this in for two

413
00:18:15,409 --> 00:18:12,299
reasons

414
00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:15,419
first I'm not 100 sure that I believe it

415
00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,840
myself and second I'm trying to be a

416
00:18:23,210 --> 00:18:20,700
journalist and don't want this type of

417
00:18:24,890 --> 00:18:23,220
report to discredit me for future career

418
00:18:27,169 --> 00:18:24,900
opportunities

419
00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:27,179
that's why I'm sending this anonymously

420
00:18:34,669 --> 00:18:29,580
and that's why I'm not interested in

421
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:37,669
I was talking about this story

422
00:18:41,210 --> 00:18:39,840
while drinking with my siblings the

423
00:18:43,130 --> 00:18:41,220
other night

424
00:18:45,289 --> 00:18:43,140
and my sister pointed out that it

425
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:45,299
reminded her some stories that she'd

426
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:48,720
seemed circulating uh online

427
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:50,940
and when I looked into it myself I was

428
00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:52,799
surprised to see that my story had

429
00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,320
already been partially reported earlier

430
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,320
this month on June 29th I was walking

431
00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:00,240
home from getting Wendy's when a small

432
00:19:06,650 --> 00:19:02,100
group of friends

433
00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:06,660
one of my friends pointed at the dark

434
00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:08,280
shape in a tree

435
00:19:13,549 --> 00:19:10,740
on the corner of West 81st and South

436
00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:13,559
Route the thing was big but details were

437
00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:15,900
hard to make out at night

438
00:19:20,330 --> 00:19:17,880
then this thing jumped out of the tree

439
00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:20,340
and flew onto the roof in an apartment

440
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:22,980
building on the same block

441
00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:25,440
when it flew I got the chance to see

442
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,960
that it was tall dark thing with wide

443
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,039
wings

444
00:19:33,950 --> 00:19:31,679
nothing like that Mothman statue that

445
00:19:36,169 --> 00:19:33,960
they've got in Point Pleasant a group of

446
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,179
people had started to form on the corner

447
00:19:43,310 --> 00:19:41,090
then some of the people in the corner

448
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,320
whom I hadn't met previously flagged

449
00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:45,360
down a police officer

450
00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:47,700
to point the thing out that's when my

451
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:55,789
so I I now believe that the officer I

452
00:20:00,350 --> 00:19:58,559
saw was the same officer who reported a

453
00:20:01,490 --> 00:20:00,360
story about seeing this thing that same

454
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:01,500
night

455
00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:04,020
I still think it might have had a

456
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:06,240
logical explanation but I thought there

457
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,919
might be others interested in hearing

458
00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:10,320
this story and coming to their own

459
00:20:16,029 --> 00:20:13,380
conclusions thank you so

460
00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:18,770
I was glad we got some verification from

461
00:20:22,010 --> 00:20:20,520
another witness unfortunately we didn't

462
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:22,020
get any nobody else from the

463
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:24,299
neighborhood or who was there that night

464
00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:26,820
followed up on it but I from some other

465
00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:27,740
information

466
00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:32,940
to me by this witness I

467
00:20:37,850 --> 00:20:34,740
um I I believe they were definitely

468
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,860
there and they sold this thing

469
00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:39,600
so a little bit later now we're talking

470
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:42,660
about 2017 we're talking about

471
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:47,039
exciting reports leading up

472
00:20:53,090 --> 00:20:51,120
you know going forward into these cases

473
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:53,100
uh

474
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:56,640
so I did re about a month later I

475
00:21:01,610 --> 00:20:58,799
received the following information but

476
00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:01,620
telephone This was

477
00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:07,510
early in the morning Thursday

478
00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:10,740
uh August the 3rd

479
00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:13,500
so this is this is what the individual

480
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:19,430
the encounter took place in the

481
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:21,780
playground area of Indian Boundary Park

482
00:21:27,169 --> 00:21:25,919
in Bolingbrook Illinois Southwest suburb

483
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:27,179
of Chicago

484
00:21:33,409 --> 00:21:29,340
and this is one of the first sightings

485
00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:33,419
that we received outside of the city

486
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,700
now the witness states that she had a

487
00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:37,919
normal routine of Walking In The Park at

488
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:38,760
night

489
00:21:51,289 --> 00:21:48,960
approximately 10 30 p.m local time

490
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:51,299
the witness who wished to remain

491
00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:53,460
anonymous in the report since she

492
00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:56,100
resides in a pretty tight-knit community

493
00:22:01,250 --> 00:21:58,500
was in the playground area of the park

494
00:22:02,890 --> 00:22:01,260
when she came upon a seven to eight foot

495
00:22:05,930 --> 00:22:02,900
tall beam

496
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:05,940
standing in the middle of a pathway

497
00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:08,159
now the witness initially thought that

498
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,620
this was two people embracing

499
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,200
but was surprised at the height

500
00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:15,600
she also noticed a sucking and

501
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:19,140
slobbering sound coming from the bean

502
00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:21,360
she felt like she was being drawn to

503
00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:23,940
this being as well as feeling a sense of

504
00:22:28,330 --> 00:22:26,220
foreboding

505
00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:28,340
now the witness grabbed her cell phone

506
00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:31,500
in order to catch a photo capture a

507
00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:34,260
photo but was shocked when the beings

508
00:22:39,529 --> 00:22:37,020
slowly turned towards her

509
00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:39,539
overcome with fear she quickly realized

510
00:22:45,230 --> 00:22:42,539
this was not two people embracing but a

511
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,240
single tall dark humanoid

512
00:22:49,130 --> 00:22:47,280
the witness cut the feeling that is

513
00:22:51,529 --> 00:22:49,140
somehow knew that she was going to take

514
00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:51,539
a photo then reacted

515
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:53,640
she mentioned that she felt like she was

516
00:22:59,330 --> 00:22:57,120
being lured towards the humanoid

517
00:23:02,210 --> 00:22:59,340
and a being had exceptional broad

518
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,220
shoulders and looked like was wearing a

519
00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:04,799
thick black unknown material

520
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:06,900
now the head was human-like but quite

521
00:23:11,870 --> 00:23:08,880
small in size

522
00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:11,880
she was within 15 feet of the being but

523
00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:13,740
never noticed any eyes or facial

524
00:23:18,289 --> 00:23:15,780
expressions or features

525
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:18,299
there was enough Moonlight available so

526
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:20,100
she was able to get an excellent look at

527
00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:21,600
this being

528
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:23,940
she immediately took another pathway in

529
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,559
order to get away from his being but

530
00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:27,600
soon started to experience intense

531
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,820
weakness and fear

532
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,679
she actually had to sit and gather

533
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:33,120
herself

534
00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:35,280
while keeping an eye out for the being

535
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,140
eventually she got to her feet and

536
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:39,840
quickly found another path home

537
00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:42,120
now when this witness arrived at our

538
00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:43,320
home

539
00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:45,960
which was like about two blocks away

540
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:48,360
she relayed the experience to her son

541
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:50,820
who recommended that they drive back to

542
00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:51,960
the park

543
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,900
and see if the being was still there

544
00:24:00,049 --> 00:23:57,360
as they approached they drove around the

545
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:00,059
location then the sun noticed a large

546
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,360
Dark Shadow emerged from and stood

547
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,240
emerged from and stood up at a nearby

548
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:07,679
bush

549
00:24:13,490 --> 00:24:10,260
he stated that it peered at him though

550
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:13,500
he didn't see any face our eyes or face

551
00:24:17,870 --> 00:24:15,780
he just knew that it was watching him

552
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,880
and that he was overcome with intense

553
00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:19,440
apprehension

554
00:24:24,169 --> 00:24:22,020
they quickly headed home

555
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:24,179
now when they arrived to him

556
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,460
they were both very scared and upset not

557
00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:28,799
knowing what to do should they report

558
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:30,900
the incident to the local authorities or

559
00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:33,120
remain quiet eventually

560
00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:35,220
they went online and found my contact

561
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:37,620
information now when I talked to the

562
00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:40,260
witness she was shocked at the number of

563
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:42,840
sightings in the Chicago metro area

564
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:44,880
she had no knowledge of any previous

565
00:24:50,029 --> 00:24:47,400
incidents it was quite obvious that she

566
00:24:52,190 --> 00:24:50,039
was still very scared and was afraid of

567
00:24:54,289 --> 00:24:52,200
that being may know where she lives I

568
00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:54,299
mean she was literally crying when I was

569
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,980
on the phone with her

570
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,600
now I asked the witness to keep in

571
00:25:02,029 --> 00:25:00,240
contact if with with me in case she had

572
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,039
another experience of hearing any other

573
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:04,559
sightings or that she remembered for the

574
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:11,690
is a large complex near a school in a

575
00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:15,120
subdivision along Springwood Lane in

576
00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:18,600
Bolingbrook I asked the witness if the

577
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,220
covering may have been membrane like

578
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:22,860
wings wrapped around the body in which

579
00:25:27,769 --> 00:25:25,020
she acknowledged in the affirmative

580
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:27,779
uh I have talked to several witnesses by

581
00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:31,200
telephone during that wave of sightings

582
00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:34,200
but uh it's pretty obvious that she was

583
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,500
terrified by what she experienced

584
00:25:42,409 --> 00:25:39,600
so

585
00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:42,419
this next sighting

586
00:25:49,490 --> 00:25:47,820
uh was of a red eyed winged Goblin that

587
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:49,500
confronted a Chicago Little Village

588
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:52,440
Family now this one was sent to Emmanuel

589
00:26:04,010 --> 00:25:59,630
um the date was September 24th 2017

590
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:04,020
about 8 45 p.m in the 2600 block of

591
00:26:08,029 --> 00:26:05,880
South Drake Avenue

592
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,039
the Witnesses were a mother and two

593
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,320
adult children

594
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,659
and uh she states

595
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,120
we were walking home from Sunday evening

596
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,240
mass and we're walking our usual route

597
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:21,059
of Drake Avenue to our house

598
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,240
as we walk we noticed what looked like a

599
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,820
very tall man dressed in black

600
00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:28,559
standing out in the middle of the road

601
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,840
underneath a street light

602
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:32,880
we didn't pay much attention as we

603
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,900
assume

604
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,120
that was just a regular person in the

605
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:38,880
root and wearing black clothing

606
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,220
the man then stretched his arms out

607
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,440
above his head and suddenly a pair of

608
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:45,600
very large wings

609
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:48,360
spread out from behind him which must

610
00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:50,159
have been over 10 foot wide and were

611
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:51,299
solid black

612
00:26:55,730 --> 00:26:53,220
even though this man was standing under

613
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:55,740
a street light there was still a lot a

614
00:26:59,570 --> 00:26:57,720
lot of detail there was not a lot of

615
00:27:02,990 --> 00:26:59,580
detail to this man

616
00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:03,000
as we moved closer we noticed that the

617
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:05,880
man turned and walked more like hot

618
00:27:11,090 --> 00:27:08,640
towards the sidewalk ahead of us

619
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,100
it was ended turned towards us and we

620
00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:13,740
saw that it had a pair of glowing red

621
00:27:18,049 --> 00:27:15,059
eyes

622
00:27:21,230 --> 00:27:18,059
now the mother uttered the words of

623
00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:21,240
Madre de deos and crossed herself and

624
00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:23,159
then said to us that it looked like a

625
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:26,820
duende which is a Spanish word for gal

626
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:29,220
we stopped and stood in front of my mom

627
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:31,320
trying to Shield her

628
00:27:36,590 --> 00:27:34,799
the man then made a loud Screech and

629
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:36,600
then it opened its wings and shot

630
00:27:40,669 --> 00:27:38,700
straight up into the air

631
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:40,679
we could hear the sound of the Wings

632
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,020
flapping as it rose up into the air and

633
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,600
passed over us and out of slate as it

634
00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:47,760
continued flying down the street and out

635
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:49,020
of slate

636
00:27:54,830 --> 00:27:52,200
now my mother was visibly shaken and was

637
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:54,840
praying when I turned back to her

638
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,539
she reassured we reassured her that it

639
00:28:01,789 --> 00:27:59,400
was over and the thing was gone

640
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:01,799
I asked my brother to help me walk her

641
00:28:06,049 --> 00:28:04,260
to the the rest of the way home and when

642
00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:06,059
we got home

643
00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:08,760
my brother said that my mother

644
00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:11,460
told him that she could feel a strong

645
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:14,580
sense of Evil coming from this thing

646
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,100
she was certain that this thing was sent

647
00:28:21,649 --> 00:28:19,620
to do harm to someone that felt sorry

648
00:28:22,970 --> 00:28:21,659
and she felt sorry for whoever it was

649
00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:22,980
stunning after

650
00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:26,340
I'm certain that whatever it was

651
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:28,740
that we and I am certain whatever it was

652
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:30,900
that we saw it was not a bird

653
00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:33,480
but something from outside of this world

654
00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:35,580
so

655
00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:41,460
uh he talked to the else brother uh the

656
00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:43,559
one making report and state and he

657
00:28:46,669 --> 00:28:45,179
stated that he heard from others about

658
00:28:50,269 --> 00:28:46,679
the sightings

659
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,279
and that he reported to UFO

660
00:28:56,390 --> 00:28:54,000
Clearinghouse because actually Manuel

661
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:56,400
had started putting Flyers up in in

662
00:29:00,350 --> 00:28:57,960
Little Village area

663
00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:00,360
and he has seen one emanuel's flyers in

664
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:02,760
the local grocery store

665
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:05,100
uh Emmanuel said I spoke on two

666
00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:07,140
occasions with him and then once the

667
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:09,419
younger brother regarding the sighting

668
00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:11,640
the third witness was unwilling to speak

669
00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:13,740
to me in regard to her sighting but did

670
00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:16,620
provide details of your Elder's son

671
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:18,539
now both siblings were able to recall

672
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:20,340
their sighting in detail both have

673
00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:22,200
similar descriptions when interviewed

674
00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:23,580
separately

675
00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:26,100
now neither the witness embellished upon

676
00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:27,960
their sighting and neither witness

677
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,980
contradicted the others testimony

678
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:34,320
uh when I asked if either one would

679
00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:35,940
accompany back to the spot of the

680
00:29:39,169 --> 00:29:37,500
sighting I was told that they would

681
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,179
accompany me but

682
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:41,279
would only do during the daylight hours

683
00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:44,220
and absolutely not during it returned

684
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:45,000
dark

685
00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:46,799
it's apparent to both Witnesses were

686
00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:49,559
very shaken and that they believe that

687
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:51,960
what they saw was real

688
00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:54,720
uh he said it's my opinion that deciding

689
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:56,520
is bound and the witness are credible

690
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,020
and this citing warns further

691
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,070
um and the proximity deciding to other

692
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:06,000
reported sightings also warrants further

693
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,159
investigation and file with other

694
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:10,559
Witnesses now

695
00:30:14,570 --> 00:30:12,779
just being a little village

696
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:14,580
now let me talk about a little village

697
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:16,980
real quick

698
00:30:21,169 --> 00:30:19,020
this area of Chicago this neighborhood

699
00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:21,179
Chicago

700
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,080
is mostly Hispanic

701
00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:27,120
uh

702
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,700
to this date this current date we've had

703
00:30:35,389 --> 00:30:31,679
eight sightings reported at a little

704
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,269
and another aspect of this phenomena and

705
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,080
it just doesn't pertain to Little

706
00:30:43,850 --> 00:30:42,240
Village but pertains to all the signs

707
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,860
that we have received

708
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:46,080
uh in Chicago and outside of Chicago

709
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:49,080
over 50 percent of the sightings that we

710
00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:52,260
have received were from people from

711
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:55,740
Witnesses of Hispanics or Latina

712
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,140
dissent

713
00:31:01,669 --> 00:31:00,000
now is it because of culture it's

714
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,679
because of religion it's because it's

715
00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:03,120
something else

716
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,980
we just haven't quite figured that out

717
00:31:09,649 --> 00:31:06,000
yet

718
00:31:12,889 --> 00:31:09,659
but it it's very interesting

719
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:12,899
uh later on I start going in into other

720
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:16,440
uh sightings from other years and as we

721
00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:19,620
progress and we'll be doing that

722
00:31:25,130 --> 00:31:22,860
in in you know in other shows you'll

723
00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:25,140
notice that a lot of this comes from a

724
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,230
um so

725
00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:33,120
I you know we we really don't know why

726
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:36,120
this is happening to these folks

727
00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:38,820
but uh

728
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:41,399
you know it's just another aspect of

729
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:44,640
this whole phenomena that just really

730
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:46,980
just really

731
00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:50,039
sets it apart from much any other type

732
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:52,740
of phenomena

733
00:31:58,370 --> 00:31:56,399
um and another reason why I I think it's

734
00:32:02,029 --> 00:31:58,380
interesting because we have heard people

735
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,039
talk about people in crowds actually who

736
00:32:07,789 --> 00:32:04,080
have seen this phenomena seen these

737
00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:07,799
beings and it seems that some people

738
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:10,620
seem to be pegged or the dog

739
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:13,320
allowed to see it

740
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,620
so um you know this is just another part

741
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:18,000
of this whole investigation we're

742
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:19,620
looking looking into

743
00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:22,620
so I have one more uh one more account

744
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:25,740
from 2017 I'm going to talk about

745
00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:28,020
and uh if you have questions you can

746
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,120
start posting them now I'll come back

747
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:32,820
and get them this is probably the most

748
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:36,120
dramatic of the sightings

749
00:32:41,810 --> 00:32:38,940
so I received a brief email

750
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:41,820
on a Thursday

751
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:47,760
uh August 10th at uh 3 45 P.M

752
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:51,120
my time from a witness in Chicago

753
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,399
I was asked to call them for further

754
00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:55,440
information so I responded with the

755
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:57,539
telephone call at about four o'clock the

756
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:04,669
the witness A.G and her husband who live

757
00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:07,260
in the Washington DC suburbs

758
00:33:15,649 --> 00:33:10,260
or in Chicago visiting her parents

759
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:19,070
now she was born and raised abroad but

760
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:26,690
now last night which was Wednesday

761
00:33:33,549 --> 00:33:29,220
uh

762
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:33,559
August 9 2017 and approximately 9 20 p.m

763
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:37,860
Central Time the witness and her husband

764
00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:40,140
were returning to her parents residence

765
00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:42,779
after taking a brief walk along North

766
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:45,539
Lake Shore Drive walking South

767
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:48,120
as they approached each East Shore

768
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:49,440
Street

769
00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:52,260
they noticed something large and dark

770
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,659
flying towards them from the left from

771
00:33:59,690 --> 00:33:57,360
the direction of Lake Michigan

772
00:34:01,850 --> 00:33:59,700
both Witnesses were startled as the

773
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:01,860
flying anomaly crossed ahead of them at

774
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:04,799
an altitude of 20 or so feet

775
00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:06,779
now they watched the anomaly sweep

776
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:08,220
upwards

777
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:11,879
over the trees in front of the 1400 in

778
00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:14,940
front of 1400 North Lake Shore Drive

779
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:17,339
which is the condominium building where

780
00:34:22,010 --> 00:34:20,700
her mother and father live at then stop

781
00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:22,020
in midair

782
00:34:26,329 --> 00:34:24,359
after reached the height of just a few

783
00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:26,339
stories from the top of the building

784
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:28,740
it hovered with a large pair of wings

785
00:34:34,129 --> 00:34:31,379
for approximately five seconds

786
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:34,139
as it seemed to focus on the windows in

787
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:35,399
front of it

788
00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:38,940
it then bent backwards and fell on a

789
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:41,879
dime towards the trees

790
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:44,399
the witnesses hurriedly walked in the

791
00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:45,960
direction of the intersection then

792
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:48,540
turned right on the East Shore Street

793
00:34:52,970 --> 00:34:50,760
quickly walking towards the enters of

794
00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:52,980
the condominium building

795
00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:54,780
then suddenly

796
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:58,380
the large wing being slowly descended in

797
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,859
front of them not more than 25 foot away

798
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:04,320
it hovered about five feet above the

799
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:07,619
sidewalk with its wings spread open as

800
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:09,540
it peered at the couple with large

801
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:13,140
bright red eyes that slowly altered back

802
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:15,480
and forth in intensity

803
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:17,520
several people on the other side of the

804
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:20,240
street including a delivery van driver

805
00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:22,980
reacted with screams and frightening

806
00:35:27,770 --> 00:35:24,060
Yelps

807
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,780
the wing being hovered for 10 seconds

808
00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:30,480
then quickly pulled the wings into its

809
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,720
body and shot up quickly into the night

810
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:35,280
sky

811
00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:37,859
there was no sound other than a rush air

812
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:41,220
as if the being flew upwards

813
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,920
now the witness A.G

814
00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:46,560
described the wing being as human-like

815
00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:49,320
with a small head that narrowed at the

816
00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:52,200
top it had legs like a human with long

817
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:54,359
feet that tapered

818
00:36:00,290 --> 00:35:57,540
neither witness noticed any arms the

819
00:36:02,510 --> 00:36:00,300
body was five to six foot in height it

820
00:36:06,109 --> 00:36:02,520
had a wide and had wide wings that

821
00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:06,119
resembled the top wings of a butterfly

822
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:08,280
they cast along the body now the

823
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,200
illumination from the building enters

824
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:13,020
could be seen through the wings so it

825
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:16,140
looked to be made of a skin or membrane

826
00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:19,560
the wingspan was easily 10 foot 10 plus

827
00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:23,099
feet the legs pulsated as it hovered in

828
00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:26,420
the air the overall color was very dark

829
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,359
like a deep bluish green the skin on the

830
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:33,119
body may have been moist since it was

831
00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:36,060
shiny the eyes were large compared to

832
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,420
the head size slightly slanted and

833
00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:41,339
alternating back and forth in brightness

834
00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:44,460
and made no noise other than a slight

835
00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:47,640
humming from the pulsating legs

836
00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:50,579
both Witnesses stating that they felt a

837
00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:53,880
vibration that emanated from the beam

838
00:36:58,730 --> 00:36:56,700
now the witness did see at least one

839
00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:58,740
camouflage come from across the street

840
00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:01,079
now neither witness was able to retrieve

841
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,420
their phones the fear and shock was too

842
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:06,000
profound during the encounter A.G stated

843
00:37:10,970 --> 00:37:08,520
that she literally fell to her knees

844
00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:10,980
after the incident and that her husband

845
00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:13,980
had to assist her the rest of the way

846
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:16,440
neither witness has slept more than an

847
00:37:20,329 --> 00:37:19,140
hour to since the encounter 18 hours

848
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:20,339
previous

849
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:21,900
now

850
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:24,300
the witness statement by telephone was

851
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:27,180
quite dramatic and detailed I'll admit

852
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,980
it kind of freaked me out a bit this

853
00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:30,119
encounter

854
00:37:36,109 --> 00:37:33,300
uh to date offers the best description

855
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:36,119
of these flying humanoids uh the witness

856
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:38,700
husband talked briefly but he acted like

857
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:41,160
he'd rather not say too much

858
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:43,140
now the Witnesses were supposed to fly

859
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,760
home

860
00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:47,040
but they Delight delayed their departure

861
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,040
for a few days now AG told me I'm just

862
00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:52,079
not ready to get on an airplane right

863
00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:53,160
now

864
00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:01,020
and this is something that has kind of

865
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,140
cropped up in a few of the sightings

866
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:06,960
this AG's husband is a professional

867
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,000
athlete was a professional athlete in

868
00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:11,040
the Washington DC area

869
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:14,280
he played for professional sports team

870
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,440
we have had other

871
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:19,920
local celebrities have sightings as well

872
00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:22,980
people that are known to the public

873
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,740
a few others that are known Beyond just

874
00:38:32,089 --> 00:38:27,599
the local public

875
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:32,099
which I find fascinating so

876
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:34,200
you know that was probably the most

877
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,460
dramatic setting that we received

878
00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:40,320
that year and maybe one of the most

879
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,140
dramatic received all along though as we

880
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:44,880
go into uh

881
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:47,460
other shows and I start

882
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:50,339
to chronologically talking about these

883
00:38:54,890 --> 00:38:51,900
encounters

884
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,900
uh I believe some of the um you know

885
00:38:59,870 --> 00:38:57,359
hair settings are just as

886
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,880
just as interesting so if you've got

887
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:01,440
questions

888
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:02,820
uh

889
00:39:07,790 --> 00:39:05,520
feel free to bring them up there

890
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:07,800
and I'll try to go back here and get as

891
00:39:16,609 --> 00:39:11,040
many as I can if I miss one feel free to

892
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:18,470
okay you're just gonna have to wait a

893
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:21,119
second until I get to the first one I

894
00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:26,810
okay mortal clown have any of these

895
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:28,859
sightings overlapped with

896
00:39:37,730 --> 00:39:34,140
uh UAP or UFO sites now other than one

897
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:37,740
uh and I believe that other that it was

898
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:40,560
that Montrose off of Montrose Beach

899
00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:43,020
people were out on a boat and they saw

900
00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:46,440
two of these beings flying above them

901
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:48,359
but about the same time they saw

902
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:51,960
something green streaking across the

903
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,000
Horizon I believe that could have been a

904
00:39:57,650 --> 00:39:57,060
meteorite yeah quite honest with you

905
00:40:00,290 --> 00:39:57,660
um

906
00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:00,300
and the reason I say that is there I

907
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:02,280
found at least one more one other

908
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,760
meteorite sighting that same night

909
00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:07,920
uh in Chicago

910
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:11,640
so it was probably brief and very quick

911
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:18,829
I don't know of any of them which is

912
00:40:22,130 --> 00:40:20,820
another thing you know

913
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,140
um

914
00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:25,200
the uo UFO reports which are usually

915
00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:28,920
pretty prevalent in the Chicago area

916
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,560
that first

917
00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:32,640
summer

918
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:35,880
and into fall 2017.

919
00:40:41,089 --> 00:40:39,060
the citing the numbers of UFO sightings

920
00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:41,099
UAP sightings

921
00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:43,800
really dropped tremendously now I don't

922
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:45,060
know if it had anything to do with what

923
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,740
people you know with these sightings or

924
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:48,240
not

925
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:51,420
uh you know that's one thing I I will

926
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:54,180
probably look into as we look further

927
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:56,339
and further into this as we start

928
00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:00,480
looking at years as to how heavy the UFO

929
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:03,420
activity and other unexplained activity

930
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:05,880
was in the Chicago area our areas where

931
00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:08,520
these sightings were seen because you

932
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:11,460
know if you look at the uh the map

933
00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:14,280
the interactive map we're about 160

934
00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:17,160
sightings at this point right now

935
00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:19,619
and uh our sightings We Believe are

936
00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:22,980
valid sightings and

937
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:25,980
they range anywhere they you know from

938
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:28,560
Milwaukee South in Chicago down into

939
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:31,920
Central Illinois and Central Indiana out

940
00:41:36,349 --> 00:41:34,140
into uh

941
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:36,359
Southwest

942
00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:37,920
Wisconsin

943
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:40,740
so you know we are taking signs about

944
00:41:47,569 --> 00:41:44,280
250 mile radius from Chicago

945
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:47,579
uh but we haven't really looked into UFO

946
00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:50,700
activity reported around the same time

947
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:52,740
of these sightings but I do know the

948
00:42:03,710 --> 00:41:55,560
sighting you know for Chicago the UFO

949
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,109
Tina Johnson

950
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:09,119
in your opinion is mothman's spiritual

951
00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:11,400
physical and is that

952
00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:18,050
you know I I believe they are a flushing

953
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:19,320
blood

954
00:42:23,210 --> 00:42:21,240
I don't think they're spiritual I don't

955
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,220
think they're

956
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:25,680
any type of apparition I believe they're

957
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:28,440
Flesh and Blood I do also believe that

958
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:31,020
as time has gone on

959
00:42:35,569 --> 00:42:34,020
that they are interdimensional

960
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:35,579
but you know you folks have heard me

961
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:37,500
talk about it you know interdimensional

962
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,900
species but Cryptids and other things as

963
00:42:44,450 --> 00:42:41,520
well

964
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:44,460
um I think there's something to that

965
00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:46,440
uh but I think these be I don't think

966
00:42:50,569 --> 00:42:48,180
these beings are here on this airplane

967
00:42:54,290 --> 00:42:50,579
all the time I think they moved within

968
00:42:56,089 --> 00:42:54,300
within uh these dimensions

969
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:56,099
but no I don't think it's I don't think

970
00:43:01,609 --> 00:42:57,960
it's spiritual I think it's definitely

971
00:43:03,530 --> 00:43:01,619
uh just by just by the way the sounds

972
00:43:05,210 --> 00:43:03,540
and what people are seeing and the way

973
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:05,220
they react I think they are physical

974
00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:12,589
Bernadette are there still sightings or

975
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:14,520
activity at the airport do you think

976
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:16,980
this is their mean up yeah I do

977
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:20,520
uh starting in October 2019 and we'll

978
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:23,160
get to that as we as I start moving

979
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:26,579
along with these these reports

980
00:43:32,450 --> 00:43:31,010
about eight eighty percent of the

981
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:32,460
sightings have been coming out of the

982
00:43:38,690 --> 00:43:35,700
Chicago O'Hare area

983
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:38,700
um in the road also in Rosemont which is

984
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,240
east of suburb east of the airport and

985
00:43:46,849 --> 00:43:44,880
Bensenville which is uh Southwest the

986
00:43:49,130 --> 00:43:46,859
airport but there have been other areas

987
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:49,140
nearby as well

988
00:43:54,650 --> 00:43:51,480
do I think uh

989
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:54,660
the airport is the main Hub yeah I do I

990
00:44:00,290 --> 00:43:57,180
think it has something to do

991
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,300
with uh that Cemetery the Rest Haven

992
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:02,400
Cemetery which is in the southwest Port

993
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,619
of the airport

994
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:07,680
uh it's an area where a lot of carriers

995
00:44:13,309 --> 00:44:10,140
and and are located

996
00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:13,319
uh cargo carriers

997
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,900
and there have been a particularly large

998
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:17,760
number of sightings there

999
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:20,880
by people who work for the carriers

1000
00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:25,020
security has been increased there over

1001
00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:26,700
the years

1002
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:29,700
and uh that seems to be the area where

1003
00:44:36,410 --> 00:44:33,060
they do seem to be emanating from is now

1004
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:36,420
is it is it a portal opening in the uh

1005
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,940
in the cemetery I don't know

1006
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:40,560
you know we've had sightings throughout

1007
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:43,380
the airport but I think I think there's

1008
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:45,660
a good possibility that this is where

1009
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:48,720
the starting point the the portal if you

1010
00:45:02,450 --> 00:44:59,210
Tina Johnson is Mothman mainly a flapper

1011
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,530
these sightings in and around Chicago

1012
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,640
it's pretty remarkable the way this

1013
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:10,560
thing Maneuvers in the air there are

1014
00:45:14,450 --> 00:45:12,180
times when people do see it flat between

1015
00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:14,460
but for the most part

1016
00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:17,000
it's able to

1017
00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:19,319
locomote itself

1018
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:21,720
without the wings flapping it speed up

1019
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:23,700
slow down maneuver it's it's it's

1020
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:25,800
bizarre

1021
00:45:31,609 --> 00:45:28,200
um you know when people see it

1022
00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:31,619
they're Amazed by it because you know it

1023
00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:34,020
just looks like something

1024
00:45:38,170 --> 00:45:36,540
that has some type of

1025
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:38,180
um

1026
00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:47,400
when I had my encounter in 1988

1027
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:51,000
of a wing to monoi it did the same thing

1028
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:53,700
in my encounter in 88 here in

1029
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:56,280
Pennsylvania the description that people

1030
00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:58,140
have been giving us is very similar to

1031
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:00,680
what I reported back then

1032
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:03,480
so uh I I think they do have a

1033
00:46:11,690 --> 00:46:08,160
supernatural ability to uh to Glide

1034
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:11,700
and to move and just increase decrease

1035
00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:19,370
uh Tina again do you think the

1036
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:21,720
government is aware of malt man well I

1037
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,490
I you know that's a hard question to

1038
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:30,960
answer you know we've been we have

1039
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:33,300
talked about Bigfoot

1040
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:35,640
uh and government involvement which I

1041
00:46:39,410 --> 00:46:37,980
think there is some as far as Mothman

1042
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:39,420
goes

1043
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:42,240
I don't know I haven't seen any real

1044
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:45,060
proof that there is but

1045
00:46:48,589 --> 00:46:46,920
there does seem

1046
00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:48,599
now if you're talking federal government

1047
00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:51,060
maybe not but I think the local

1048
00:46:55,609 --> 00:46:54,180
government in our in Chicago

1049
00:46:58,609 --> 00:46:55,619
and the powers that be at the airport

1050
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,619
are pretty concerned about this thing

1051
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:00,720
um they had tried to squash this from

1052
00:47:07,370 --> 00:47:05,450
Jose Sanchez has there ever been

1053
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:07,380
multiple Mall fan sightings in any

1054
00:47:12,349 --> 00:47:10,200
recent or past sightings yeah there was

1055
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:12,359
one uh like I said the Montrose Beach

1056
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:16,140
over two sightings of two beans

1057
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:18,660
there was another saying to another

1058
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,180
several settings actually when

1059
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:23,280
these beings are seen at the same time

1060
00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:26,880
in different parts of the city

1061
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:28,020
now

1062
00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:31,380
that there's definitely more than one

1063
00:47:36,290 --> 00:47:33,660
being there are just some small

1064
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:36,300
differences in some of the settings and

1065
00:47:41,870 --> 00:47:40,380
time periods where you you almost got to

1066
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,880
come off thinking that there are

1067
00:47:44,089 --> 00:47:43,200
definitely more than one of them out

1068
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:44,099
there

1069
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,720
and I've thought from the very beginning

1070
00:47:48,589 --> 00:47:47,880
that there was at least three at the

1071
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:48,599
time

1072
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,530
Thomas Carroll have there been any

1073
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:00,240
sightings in Michigan side of the lake

1074
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:02,760
you know we've had a few

1075
00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:04,260
um

1076
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:06,300
I I know of two

1077
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:09,839
I think Tobias

1078
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:13,260
got a couple reports from there

1079
00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:14,579
um

1080
00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:17,160
they're not marked on the map but they

1081
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:19,500
are in our our notes

1082
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:22,619
there haven't been any uh

1083
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,020
there haven't been any real

1084
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:26,880
distinguishable

1085
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:30,180
aspects to those Michigan sightings

1086
00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:32,220
that kind of settled apart from the

1087
00:48:37,970 --> 00:48:34,560
Chicago sightings and most of those have

1088
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,290
24 baby bull who's the 911 Mothman photo

1089
00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:44,160
legit I don't know

1090
00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:49,970
you know I don't know I I don't honestly

1091
00:48:55,849 --> 00:48:53,099
in my opinion I don't believe it is

1092
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:55,859
but you know who am I to determine you

1093
00:49:02,450 --> 00:49:00,000
know I I haven't looked at that photo

1094
00:49:04,730 --> 00:49:02,460
as far as forensically

1095
00:49:06,849 --> 00:49:04,740
some people claim it is you know we

1096
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:06,859
we've had a lot of people in the past

1097
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:10,500
state after the fact that

1098
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:14,160
they have seen these flying beans

1099
00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:16,560
uh previous to

1100
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:21,950
but as far as and I know which which

1101
00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:23,640
photo you're talking about I I just

1102
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,630
I do I do know one thing speaking of

1103
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:31,920
photos we're working on a report right

1104
00:49:36,829 --> 00:49:34,500
now or Manuel is

1105
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:36,839
with photos

1106
00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:40,740
so as soon as he gets that I'm gonna

1107
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:42,780
post those

1108
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:44,819
and um

1109
00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:46,800
we'll talk about that at a later time

1110
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:49,140
but yeah that

1111
00:49:53,930 --> 00:49:51,420
it's an interesting report so we'll see

1112
00:49:56,089 --> 00:49:53,940
we'll see what happens but um

1113
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:56,099
we are actually working on three of them

1114
00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:57,359
right now

1115
00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:00,780
one that I got to the manual guy and

1116
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:03,180
Tobias is working on one of those

1117
00:50:08,329 --> 00:50:04,800
from uh

1118
00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:08,339
from Manuel up in Wisconsin

1119
00:50:22,849 --> 00:50:17,210
uh

1120
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,859
UFOs ever been witnessed simultaneous as

1121
00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:24,480
Bigfoot have been

1122
00:50:31,790 --> 00:50:29,339
yeah not that I know of now

1123
00:50:34,130 --> 00:50:31,800
you know in other reports of other areas

1124
00:50:36,530 --> 00:50:34,140
possibly but I don't I personally don't

1125
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:36,540
know of any

1126
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:39,900
are they seen eating Tina Johnson asked

1127
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,119
one instance of a report that I received

1128
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:47,839
from uh Northern Indiana

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outside of Hammond Indiana

1130
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:53,940
was from an individual who

1131
00:51:00,049 --> 00:50:56,760
saw one standing in a swampy area that

1132
00:51:02,089 --> 00:51:00,059
seemed to be grabbing a fish

1133
00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:02,099
I don't know

1134
00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:04,140
they they did they said they never

1135
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,420
really seen it eat anything but it

1136
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:08,400
seemed like it was the fishing reform

1137
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:10,020
you know for fish

1138
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,690
small pets small birds or animals

1139
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:19,920
being killed or

1140
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:23,400
are being partaked for food I we just

1141
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,359
don't have any information about that

1142
00:51:32,569 --> 00:51:29,520
um and we have looked into that if there

1143
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,579
have been a an inordinate amount of pets

1144
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:34,980
and such missing in the city of Chicago

1145
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,530
tabbers 69 I once heard a story that

1146
00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:53,760
Mothman may have been someone wearing a

1147
00:51:59,150 --> 00:51:57,180
suit exotech and whatnot

1148
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,160
you know I hear a lot of stories about

1149
00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:01,440
that but I haven't really seen anything

1150
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,260
you know so there have been people who

1151
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,440
have said that they believe what's going

1152
00:52:12,650 --> 00:52:09,839
on Chicago may actually be that but I

1153
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,660
haven't seen anyone evidence of that the

1154
00:52:17,690 --> 00:52:15,119
way these things fly maneuver around

1155
00:52:23,329 --> 00:52:17,700
it's just not something that a human

1156
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:26,150
and and another thing you know we we

1157
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:28,380
were getting sightings of these things

1158
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,140
flying around the river downtown

1159
00:52:35,809 --> 00:52:33,599
before it enters into the lake and

1160
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:35,819
there's several Bridges there and these

1161
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:38,940
things were seen dropping

1162
00:52:42,770 --> 00:52:41,280
you know from the sky down towards the

1163
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:42,780
river and maneuvering under the bridge

1164
00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:45,540
is an over and everything

1165
00:52:50,829 --> 00:52:47,460
a human and a squirrel suit ain't gonna

1166
00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,839
do that or even any type of

1167
00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:52,640
EXO

1168
00:52:57,770 --> 00:52:56,099
you know uniform or suit or anything

1169
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:57,780
like that

1170
00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:06,410
Tina Johnson uh were there people who

1171
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:08,040
put themselves in telepathic

1172
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:10,200
communication with Mothman

1173
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:12,180
uh

1174
00:53:16,609 --> 00:53:14,579
we have had some

1175
00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:16,619
cursory contact through the group

1176
00:53:22,730 --> 00:53:19,319
through the team

1177
00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,740
and when I get there to that point I

1178
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:25,200
will talk about that that's later on

1179
00:53:30,370 --> 00:53:28,859
that actually started in 2021

1180
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:30,380
uh

1181
00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:33,780
we really haven't had much interaction

1182
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,180
with them since then

1183
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:37,920
so I don't know what the reason is

1184
00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:41,040
behind that but

1185
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:50,030
ah Andrew bull one do you remember the

1186
00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:52,380
delivery driver hit the gargoyle

1187
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,540
Sean Forker did the report on Memphis

1188
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,480
group yeah that was um

1189
00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:00,480
there was actually two of them uh one up

1190
00:54:09,470 --> 00:54:04,619
in Ohio Northern Ohio and one down in

1191
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:11,329
but they they're none like that in

1192
00:54:20,930 --> 00:54:18,049
okay folks well

1193
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:20,940
you know thanks for coming on here and

1194
00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:24,119
um asking questions I hope I gave you

1195
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,300
the answers you wanted to hear or help

1196
00:54:31,609 --> 00:54:29,760
you understand what's been going on

1197
00:54:34,329 --> 00:54:31,619
especially in this first year

1198
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:34,339
so again if you have an unexplained

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00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:36,599
encounter Society feel free to contact

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00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:38,520
me through the fans and monsters blog

1201
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,000
site and look I thank each and every one

1202
00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:44,880
of you coming on here and um making this

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00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,400
all possible so please please like uh

1204
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,380
subscribe and share

1205
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:51,119
so um

1206
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:53,400
until we meet again

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00:54:58,730 --> 00:54:56,760
next Friday just stay healthy and have a

1208
00:55:13,560 --> 00:54:58,740
safe enjoyable weekend

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